It's time for a cloth diaper update. It's been five months since I confessed my love for cloth diapers and took lots of pictures of my washing machine. A few things have changed since then and so I thought it only fair to update you all.
So first off, yes, we are still loving cloth. Our favorite diapers are the bumGenius 4.0
I've perfected my cloth wipe spray solution since I last posted. It's one splash California Baby Diaper Area Wash,
I will not lie to you all and tell you that we haven't had any problems at all with cloth. A few months back we started having some STINKY diapers. They would smell perfectly clean when I put them on Finn, but as soon as he peed they would reek of ammonia. A little bit of googling told me that I was not alone with the microfiber stink problem. Our solution has been a simple one though. I now put a quarter cup of bleach in with the detergent every other time I wash them. The BumGenius website actually recommends this (although they suggest once per month).
The second problem we've encountered is overnight leaks. I've dabbled in extra inserts (another reason to love pocket diapers), a wool cover, and even disposables, but nothing seems to be foolproof. I now add a Thirsties Hemp Insert
Okay, okay, the reason you're all reading this post is because you want to hear about the poop. Turns out that when you feed a baby actual solid food, things change in the poop department. I was dreading this. Up until this point, all dirty diapers went straight in the wash without so much as a rinse. Breastfed babies' poop dissolves in water, and we never had a problem. But solid food changes things. I had heard good things about diaper sprayers so I started doing a little research and came across a product called The Potty Pail. I couldn't believe that in all my cloth diaper research I hadn't come across it sooner, because it's pretty flipping genius. {Full disclosure: When I ordered my Potty Pail I asked if I could get a discount for reviewing the system, and they agreed. I promise I would have still written this same exact post had I paid full price.} Now a sprayer isn't necessary for every single poopy diaper... sometimes all that's required is turning the diaper upside-down over the toilet. I'm hoping you can imagine what I mean without more poopy detail here.
Here's the deal: to use a typical diaper sprayer, you hold the dirty diaper over the toilet and use a (fairly high pressured) sprayer to clean off the poop. I had a hard time picturing how that was going to work without a) having to touch toilet water, b) having to drip dirty water across the floor back to the diaper pail, and c) being splashed with poop. Now as a mom I don't mind dealing with poop, but being splashed with poopy toilet water is really where I draw the line.
Here is where The Potty Pail comes in as an accessory to the diaper sprayer. It was designed by a husband and wife who were cloth diapering their babies and frustrated with the "swish the diaper in the toilet" method. It's basically a bucket attached to a little platform that allows it to sit on your toilet. It's angled to drain into a hole in the bucket, has hooks to hang wet diapers, and a rest for the sprayer itself. So now, all the water from the sprayer and all the poop stay contained inside this magical bucket which drains right into your toilet. No splashing and no touching the toilet: the gross-factor drops WAY down.
Hubs describes the diaper sprayer installation process as "ridiculously easy". I didn't pay much attention, but he had it finished in about five minutes.
He says all you need is a wrench.
The system comes with a little hook for the sprayer which we attached to the side of our toilet tank.
The sprayer itself has a little valve that you can use to adjust the pressure, but I pretty much like to have it turned up all the way all the time for maximum poop-removal strength. This is where there would definitely be a problem if I was spraying directly into the toilet. I'm picturing one of those infomercials for the self-straining pasta lid where someone is fumbling around with a hot pot of spaghetti and spilling it on themselves, only in this scenario it's me getting splashed with baby poop and it's not awesome. Thank you Potty Pail for shielding me from the gross. I owe you one.
The pail has two hooks where you can leave a dripping diaper to dry, and there is a lid for the pail which I use as a tray to carry the diaper back to the diaper pail (the less touching of the diaper I have to do the better). It even comes with a tray that you can set the whole pail in so that you don't drip onto your bathroom floor. There is also a chain and stopper that you can use to plug the bottom of the pail if you want to soak your diapers. I have a couple of clothespins attached to the side of it too for wipes and inserts that need to be sprayed... and the occasional poop covered article of baby clothing.
Negatives? Well it's one more thing to buy. You could probably make something like it yourself, but I don't think it's that expensive that it would be worth your time to try. Also, it does take up a bit of space your bathroom. Ours lives next to the toilet in its drip tray, but you could keep it inside your tub or shower if you didn't have enough floor space. (And it stays plenty clean with just a quick spray down so I wouldn't be grossed out about that.)
So overall, the game has changed a little, but it is SO not a big deal. Even hubs and our babysitter have used the sprayer and both thought it was totally fine. I really can't imagine continuing to cloth diaper now without at least a sprayer. So I'm sorry if I sound like the infomercial I just made fun of, but it is SO USEFUL. Solid poop is way less scary than I had worried it would be. And bonus, the poop is gone down the toilet where it belongs, not hanging out in my baby's room in a pail. Cloth or disposable, I think we can all agree that's a nice thing.
And this concludes your poop talk for the day. Carry on :)



17 comments:
I'm really just bookmarking all your baby advice posts for my future kids. It's such great info. The first time I saw that sprayer was on YoungHouseLove and I think it's such a great idea but I wondered about the erm "flying" consequences as well. :)
This post makes me laugh! I am the mom of 7 (my baby is 24 today!), and, of course, we used cloth diapers on all of them since there was no alternative. I have a really hard time imagining what you are talking about with inserts and covers. The lengths you go to to avoid touching poop are hysterical! "Swish, flush, wring" was our motto! I think you are doing a great job for your baby and the environment by using cloth diapers. We were just waaaay ahead of our time!
P.S. Your Finn is the most adorable baby ever!
I was going to do a cloth diaper update of my own soon too! I also bought the potty pail sprayer (not the bucket though), but we haven't installed it yet since we're in the process of moving. Your cloth diapers look so beautiful and colorful all hung out to dry! I must admit I've developed a bit of an addiction to cloth and have to resist the urge to keep buying more. My favorites right now are the BG's and Grovia cloth diapers (they're so trim and we haven't had any leaks either... decided to try them when they went on sale on one of those baby deal sites).
I was going to do a cloth diaper update of my own soon too! I also bought the potty pail sprayer (not the bucket though), but we haven't installed it yet since we're in the process of moving. Your cloth diapers look so beautiful and colorful all hung out to dry! I must admit I've developed a bit of an addiction to cloth and have to resist the urge to keep buying more. My favorites right now are the BG's and Grovia cloth diapers (they're so trim and we haven't had any leaks either... decided to try them when they went on sale on one of those baby deal sites).
Oops I accidentally posted on my lilbitofange account... so switched to BabyChin, but now I can't delete my first comment!
Interesting... we actually kind of gave up on cloth a couple of months ago (when DS was about 5 months old) because we could get our diapers (almost all Fuzzibunz OS) to stop being stinky. (Plus, we can't send him in cloth to daycare, so we only ended up using 2 diapers/day, which meant either we did itty bitty laundry loads, which was a pain and seemed wasteful, or we had to wait longer, which just compounded the stink).
I kind of want to go back to cloth, but OH MY GOD the solid food poop. It is gross, and abundant. And we were totally icked out by flying poopy water with the sprayer, so I am intrigued by this potty pail idea. I kind of feel like it would be pretty easy to make your own version with some supplies from Home Depot.
I've never even heard of the potty pail, but I'm definitely bookmarking this for later down the road! Thanks for the super informative posts, as always.
A great follow up review. What I always wonder (no I'm not a parent or even pregnant yet but for the future...) is how you get the poopy diaper to the bathroom? Do you set it open faced near the changing table while you put on a fresh one/get him dressed? Do you slightly close it or snap 1 snap so it doesn't accidentially roll over or something? Do you have a spot for dirty ones before they get rinsed (like a tray?)? I always thought it'd be great to just set up the changing table IN the bathroom (if enough room) that way no running through the halls with a poopy diaper. I have visions of an older sibling being grabby and pulling down a poopy diaper off the changing table in the nursery before you get a chance to rinse it!
Wow, I've never heard of the potty pail before, but it makes perfect sense! My baby is just 3 months old so I have a little while still but I definitely starred this post in my reader :)
I've never seen that product! As an avid diaper sprayer, I have to admit that I've never been victim to flying poo with our BumGenius diaper sprayer. We happen to keep out diaper pail right next to the toilet, which eliminates the dripping across the floor. But I am so glad to know about this other solution! Oh, and we're consistently using bleach in the hot cycle with our BumGenius 4.0s.
You are my cloth diapering hero! I have bookmarked all your posts and am praying we are as successful as you guys have been. Especially in the "don't get hit by any poo" department.
THANK YOU for this! We've pretty much settled on cloth diapers and this is insanely helpful. Is it weird that I'm excited about it?!
Ah this brings me fond memories of my Rockin' Green Lavender Mint Revival! Thanks again :)
Hi! I really enjoy reading your reviews! I am using disposables on my 4 month old, and full disclosure: I am not planning on making the switch to cloth, however I am interested in how they work. Since I have no personal experience with cloth, I have two questions in regard to this post:
1. instead of using extra inserts for overnight, have you considered using disposables strictly for overnight use?
2. when you factor in the "start up costs" for cloth diapers (cloth-using friends of mine suggest purchasing at least 20 diapers including liners) plus the wipes, the additional inserts, the sprays/washes, and the additional products like the "potty pail" plus the cost/time to install, how much do you think you are saving overall, as opposed to the parent who uses an average of 8-12 disposables per day? (obviously this is a vague "average"...)
Just genuinely curious!
Thanks :)
@Robin: What I do is set the dirty diaper on top of our diaper pail (step-lid trash can) while I put on a clean diaper and get Finn dressed. Then I set him in his crib and take care of the diaper, whether that is just spraying with bac-out (wet diaper) or taking it into the bathroom (ours is next door to the nursery) and spraying it. I use the lid of the potty pail as kind of a tray to carry the diaper back into the room to put into the pail. If it's more messy and dripping with water from spraying it a lot I'll just leave it in the pail to dry and then move it later. It would be nice to change right in the bathroom but we don't have room in there!
@everything.is.sticky: We have tried disposables for overnight, but still have some leaks. Recently we tried Huggies overnights, which seemed to work better, but I am not okay with the gross gel beads that leak out of the diaper onto Finn's skin. After doing some more research I'm even more anti-disposables because of all the chemicals in them (even most of the supposedly natural ones)... so we're back to trying the hemp which is actually working okay.
For the cost question- we are definitely still saving, but we aren't doing the cheapest cloth options by any means. I'm going to post more about costs...depending on who I ask about disposable diaper costs, the break even point when the investment in cloth wins out ranges from 3 months in to close to a year... and if you think about a 2nd child being close to free, that's where the savings adds up. My primary reason for doing cloth wasn't to save money though... if it was I would have definitely cut back on all the cloth diapering "accessories" ;)
Love your blog! We use BG 4.0 too. To eliminate the solid poop issue, we just use rice paper liners in each diaper. They flush down with the poop -- you just turn the whole thing over into the toilet and the rice paper liner and poop fall in, leaving very little (if anything) on the diaper. Easiest thing ever and worth the small additional cost.
I discovered cloth diapers at 3 months...she is still in them at 2 years but I don't think its been any significant savings using them--I did it to avoid chemicals etc next to her skin and for her comfort (which I discovered with breast pads--the cloth were so superior to the disposals, it made me think). I use Kissluvs Marvels which have attached inserts. For awhile I added extra inserts but finally went back to disposables at night to avoid waking due to leaks. I use the sprayer and its strong! Yes, I've experienced flying poo but if you keep the sprayer low and aim carefully you can keep it under control. Its all gotten a lot messier as she gets older but I still believe it in for my original reasons. We change diapers in the bathroom now, but before I'd just set it carefully to the side to avoid failing legs and arms--and deal with it after she was re-dressed and settled. I use a FuzziBunz wetbag to stash diapers in before laundry day. Never had a problem with diapers smelling after washing (although a few drops of essential oil in the bag can help during storage-best to launder at least every three days)--but I have had build up from soaps reduce the absorbancy. Solved by switching up the soaps. I think vinegar and baking soda can help with smell problems. Throw all mine in the dryer. They are all in excellent shape and could be used for a second child with no problem. LOVE my cloth diapers. And so now I'm using "mama cloth" and having an equally positive experience. Who knew?
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